February 2009  Shatner's Raw Nerve 

 

 

 

 


 

Watch out for this on Shatnervision. William Shatner said he intends to sell the video when it is possible.

 

WS: I've known Leonard Nimoy a long time, he's a dear friend. His artistic career goes far beyond his iconic role of Mr. Spock.
William Shatner introduces Leonard Nimoy as guest in his show Shatner's Raw Nerve. He speaks about Leonard's various artistic works in poetry, directing and producing, in writing and photography.

WS: Leonard Nimoy is about to expose his raw nerve.
Leonard comes in.
WS: What are you doing in here?
LN: I thought I drop in and say 'Hello'.
WS: That's a wonderful shot (Leonard wears a T-shirt with a photo on taken from The Full Body Project.)
LN: Don't be excited.
WS: I'm not.

Bill asks about a photo showing Sam Spinner, Leonard's grandfather from his mother's side who had come to America in the turn of the century, worked as a leather cutter and send back money for the family in Russia.

 

 

Leonard shares his experiences with a play in Boston where he participated in "Awake and Sing" when he was 17 years old (see: Other Appearances - Biography Spock & Beyond) which dealt with a family situation like his own. The experience of playing the 17 year old young man made him decide on becoming an actor. "It was about our lives... That kid in the show was exposed to the same questions I was concerned with."  The audience could really relate to that. He realized on his way to the family apartment that his home was in the theatre and his grandfather understood..


                                                                                                                          In spite of his parents who wanted him to study, Leonard got support from his grandfather to become an actor.
He chocked up because he understood him.
This is why Leonard has saved the photo: "He is my mentor, he is my guy."

 

Leonard also brought the camera with which the photo has been taken: It was bought the day he was born: This camera started my interest in photography. I made an enlarger out of this camera, took the back off and built a light housing (William Shatner: When did you do that?
LN: When I was 13.) and built a light housing, put the negative in there and projected the image onto a board and made this print. I shot the photograph with this camera and made this print with this camera.

 

 

Leonard talks about his studies at UCLA and that he considered changing careers. He did not want to do commercial photography but Fine Art Photography. [s.: interviews] Now, my work is all about photography.  

William Shatner: Take me to the Genesis of the idea. (Talking about "Who do you really think you are?" [s: interviews] )
LN: Many people have this sense of 'Who am I really supposed to be?', 'Who am I looking for?'  …
'some part of me that I feel is missing without that I really feel incomplete.' 
So, with that idea in mind, we rounded up 95 people in Northampton … handed out invitations… 
The idea behind was: "Come as you think you really are." ... Wonderful human stuff.

 

William Shatner: We were talking about relationships and marriage and all that kind of thing... You left your home; got children very quickly as did I and then things didn't quite work out in that marriage.
LN: Ya
WS: And so you had a painful divorce.
LN: Well, that's one way you're putting it. I was married for 34 years. So it took a long time to figure out whether it was working out or not.

WS: It did not work out. … But this does not fit the picture. The dedication your mother and father had. You strove to meet that image with all your might. Now, that must have been terrible. And then you met one of these more wonderful women, ladies that live on this earth, your wife Susan. Let's dwell a few moments on that.

LN: I was concerned about my parents. My parents come from a generation where divorce was a shameful thing. (WS: Of course) It was awkward. It was something they did not want in the family... Then along came Susan and I realized that I had a chance to really reach for a wholly different kind of life and it was a light force that I just wanted to have in my life. I suddenly found that I had to do that.

Leonard shares how he told his parents and that it was a terrible blow for them: My dad actually said this is awkward... And then I realized I have to live my life, I could not live it for them.

WS: You were in great pain, too.
LN: I was physically shaken... very painful.

 

 


Fortunately my mom lived long enough to meet Susan.

The next topic is about the Full Body Project. The lady who offered to work with Leonard had a different body size than the models he usually worked with. He was confused and talked with his wife about the offer. She suggested trying it and they did the shooting. At the exhibition that lady's photos got all the attention.

It started with the Shekhina gesture from Jewish mythology [s. Shekhina – interviews] invoking the Shekhina, the feminine aspect of God.
LN: I have never seen her; I thought I'm going to find her with my camera.
Bill Shatner: Still of course it is a photograph of a naked lady.
LN: I don't shoot the body as object. I use the body in ways that express a very specific idea.

William Shatner shares a personal experience and thanks Leonard for having been on the show.