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Interview
with Leonard Nimoy via telephone
Broadcast
without measure. The broadcast edition of the official E-Zine for the
international sci-fi association. Here is your host: Alan Staedham.
The "Do
you like Italian?" discussion from ST IV is heard, ending with Captain Kirk
saying: "I love it and so do you.", and Spock obeying: "Yes."
Hallo,
this is Allan Steadham, and I was trying to think of the best way to
introduce my special guest for this show. And for some reason that
particular scene from Star Trek IV, The Voyage Home, just jumped out at me.
Instead of reading of a list of the accomplishments in film and photography,
acting in general, A span of more than 40 year, Leonard I prefer to let the
man speak for himself. So, without further ado, I am delighted to introduce
Leonard Nimoy.
(on the
phone)
AS: Let's
start with The Full Body Project. Tell us about the idea and how it
developed.
LN: Well,
I showed some work from a book that is called Shekhina in a seminar
in Northern California and when it was done a lady approached me and
introduced herself and said she is a model form a different body type than I
was used to work with. She was a larger woman. Indeed, much larger than I
used to work with in the past. I agreed to have a go and try it. She came to
my studio, my wife and I photographed her. She is in the book. She is in the
Full Body Project book. She is the lady lying against the black background.
Subsequently wherever I showed any of my work which included images of her,
she got a lot of attention of people who were unused to see people of that
type. She looked like a marble sculpture in black and white. I was intrigued
by the amount of attention she got and I decided to pursue it. Through some
friends I contacted Heather McAllister. She had a group that she called "The
Fat Bottom Review", and I made a date to fly to San Francisco and to
photograph her and some of her dancers. That was the basis for the book.
AS: What
effect did the project have on you as a professional and as a person?
LN: Well, it evoke some new ideas in terms of what my perception and what
my vision was of the female figure. I learned a lot, I had some
investigation and conversation with various people, including Heather
McAllister, and I learned a lot about beauty which is so culture driven and
the obsession with thinness in our culture, with models that wear clothes
who weigh 25% less than the weight of the average American woman. Women are
told they don't look right, and they should try to achieve that model's
look. To achieve this they are told to buy pills and programs and exercise
Programs and even surgery. I learned quite a lot about body concern in our
culture.
AS: I was
wondering whether you see yourself as an activist and why or why not.
LN: I
think I did my piece, I am moving on, I do other projects now. Why or why
not? I found that very intriguing just as I found feminism intriguing and
Jewish mysticism intriguing and I did a book about that called Shekhina.
I don't consider myself an activist in that territory nor do I consider
myself an activist in the body image territory.
AS: O.
k., then lets go to your reprising your role as Mr. Spock in the new Star
Trek film. I don't want you to give away spoilers, we want the people to see
the film, but it is needless to say your role was quite extensive. What made
you become involved? The script or something else?
LN: I was contacted by the director, J. J. Abrams and he had a meeting with
me with the writers
Roberto
Orci
and Alex Kurtzman. We had a very intense conversation about what Star Trek
was about, what Mr. Spock was about. Mr. Spock's character had been
marginalized for some time. … and I thought it was okay with me, I had gone
off and did a lot of other kinds of work, but here these people came and let
me to understand that they really appreciated what the original Star Trek
was about wan what the Spock character was about and they wanted to tell a
story in which Spock would be an important factor. I was actually very
touched by their sincerity and their understanding what Spock contributed to
Star Trek. I agreed that I would at lest be interested to red the script.
And they went ahead with that understanding and they wrote the script. When
I got the script I was quite pleased with it and I contacted Mr. Abrams that
I would act in the film.
AS: Have
you met or worked with any of the cast before?
LN: No, I didn't know any of the cast. … it was the first time for me.
AS: So,
how was it like with so many new faces playing Kirk and Scotty…
LN: Well, … the old timer shows up and the young people in the cast were
appropriately intimidated. They are wonderful people, they are very
talented. I enjoyed working with each one of them, I admire what they
accomplished. I have been asked a lot about my opinion of Zachary Quinto. He
is an extremely intelligent and talented gentleman, looks enough like me to
make the connection and, more important, he has a lot of craft and
intelligence and I think his performance is excellent.
AS: I
would agree. I saw the movie and I very much enjoyed it. Now, you have
written books on this subject. But just for us right here. Is a part of you
Spock and what does it mean to you?
LN: Oh,
there is no question about it. There is no escaping that and there is
nothing I want to. But there is no question that my strongest identification
would be with the Spock character. It has been a blessing to me since Star
Trek went to the air in 1966. I have never needed to worry about finding a
job, I always had places where I could go and work, in the theatre, in
television and the films, and all over in the United Stated and in a number
of foreign countries as well. So, I have been able to make a living as an
actor through all these years which I consider a blessing, and I am very
grateful for all the opportunities Star trek and Mr. Spock has given.
AS: You
have done numerous vice acting and voice over roles and animated acting in
recent years. What do you consider before doing a voice over part? Are there
any unique challenges that are different from other ones?
LN: Well,
I read the scripts to look for the acting opportunity what it has to offer
me and how I can approach this role. Is it something I can do creatively and
successfully? Usually, most of the time, why I am offered a voice over role
is that people know my voice and know what kind of a persona my voice
projects. And they have gone through casting ideas to offer to writers as a
role that I could manage. I have not been asked to do voices for creatures
that are so outside my range that I said: No, I can't do that. It is
unlikely that I would be offered that kind of role.
AS: I
understand. A few months ago I listened to a recording of Two Young for
Yiddish. I really appreciated the work of the personality you gave
Richard Michelson's story. Please, tell us what this is about.
LN: Well,
the book is a lovely book. Rich Michelson is a very good friend of mine, he
also happens to have a very good gallery, an art gallery in Northampton,
Massachusetts, where he shows my work. And that was the connection. He is an
award winning poet and writer. I admire his writings and I admire his work
and I was moved by the concept of that book, I mean it is a very good book.
I was very flattered and honoured to be asked to do the voice.
AS: What
is the number one thing you'd like people to know about you that perhaps is
not something commonly to be known?
LN: (laughing) Well, after all these years as a public person I don't think
there's an awful lot people don't know about me. I have always tried to find
my way in the arts. It is sometimes challenging, it is sometimes
surprisingly exciting and sometimes surprisingly disappointing, but that's
the way it is in the arts. It is not a clear cut scientific process. You
operate in the dark. I said some times: Studying an artistic project is like
entering a dark room with holes in the floor. And somewhere in that room
there is a light switch and you have to find that switch to illuminate the
place. And obviously there are dangers involved because of the holes in the
floor. And there is excite because you might find the switch and if you do
find the switch and turn the light on, there is great satisfaction. This is
what the artistic process is all about.
AS: You
have always some projects going on. Tell us about the Secret Selves.
LN: This is a project that I am particularly pleased with. We rounded up a
lot of people by invitation in Massachusetts and invited them to come to be
photographed by me, to have their portrait photographed by me, to come to
the session, bringing to the camera the secret or hidden or fantasy self
that I would photograph. Over two or three days we photographed 95 people,
we have narrowed it down to 25 who were most successful. They were wonderful
people, all of them. They came with open hearts, some of them were very
funny, some very touching. Some of them were unique and exciting. And that
collection will be showing next year at this time at the Massachusetts
Museum of Contemporary Art in Northern Massachusetts as an exhibition called
Secret Selves.
And some of those images are available now on my website which is
leonardnimoyphotography.com It is listed there under the title of the
Identity Project. So, people can take a look and see how these images
look like. In addition to the clips which will be hanging for people to see
there is also a 40 minute video of my conversations with all of the people
which I think is quite exciting. I am really pleased about this because it
is my first solo exhibition in a mayor museum in the United States.
AS:
Congratulations! It sounds exciting and it must have been particularly
interesting seeing these people and how they chose to express themselves.
LN: I
really didn't know what to expect and the experience was full of wonderful
surprises.
AS: What
kind of things to you have as future projects?
LN: This is what I am working on in the moment. Of course I am committed to
do some appearances on the Fringe television series. I have already
films an appearance in two episodes, one a couple of months ago and one will
be in October. I am playing a character called William Bell who is referred
to during the first season but is never seen until the last scene of the
very last episode where I made an appearance. A very interesting character.
Fringe is a unique series, I find it exciting, I think the writers are very
clever, very talented, it is a very well produced show. So, I am looking
forward to doing some more of that.
AS: Thank
you so much for joining us this evening.
LN: You
are very, very welcome. I am sorry it took so long to get back to you.
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