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The interviewer begins to introduce Leonard:
"Leonard Nimoy has spent most of his
life trying to outgrow Mr. Spock. Once the television-series ended in 1969 Nimoy
struggled with and finally accepted the mixed blessings his alter ego provided.
Two years of playing Paris, master of disguises, ... (she really provides a nice
background for the viewer)... There are those who will never forget the Holocaust and,
as Nimoy will attest, there are those who also will never forget Spock."
"The whole Spock-thing for me was pretty strange..." Leonard begins, trying to
find the right word.
"I don't know how to explain to you the difference between
what I set out to do in this profession as compared to what I ended up, what
I found myself being successful at. It's been the strangest kind of bouncing ball."
Referring to the beginning of his acting career he shares:
"I was cast in an
amateur-production of a play called Awake and sing. It was a play
about the depression-period. A Jewish family in the Bronx. There was a seventeen
year old son in the family, and I played this kid and I felt at home. I felt
like Wow! I know these people in this scene. I know what is going on with the
dynamics of this family. I know the emotions of this kid. I know the frustrations
of him wanting to get out being somebody in the world
and all that kind of stuff.
And I go This is great. If I played parts like this for the rest of my life.
And I decided to be an actor.
And I ended up playing this very cool, distant,
remote character from another planet. I am not at home here at all, but it is working,
you know. It's working.
So when I come back to play Mel Mermelstein in Never
Forget I feel like another kind of homecoming in a way. Do you understand? It's
the kind of things that I thought I would do with my life, and yet this gigantic
success in the Spock-character. I knew why we were doing it that the character
was interesting. I knew and I was having a good time playing the character.
The character had an inner life that was fun to explore. An inner sense of humour,
a little bit of a twinkle that he would never reveal, you know. And the audience
got it! They got it! And enjoyed watching for that secret smile, that secret
inside joke, or the emotion, whatever it was he was experiencing, would not
admit to it, he would be able to hide. Just like human beings do. He is a very
human character. Referred to as a man with no emotions. Not true at all! He
suppressed his emotions, who hid his feelings just like a lot of humans would
really do to get though the day. You won't walk around putting your emotions
on your sleeve all day. So I found myself playing this character that was so
opposite of what I had set out to do."
Leonard summarizes: "Every once in a while with a project like this,
I feel fulfilled again."
Concerning America: "My folks came to America where things are different,
where you can talk about things you want to talk about. Where you can go
to school regardless of your religion or your race or background. Where
you can aspire to a higher job, and if you have the talent and the energy
to work for it you can better yourself. You don't have to be exactly what
your father was and what your grandfather was and all the rest of it. And
you don't have to be discriminated against because of your colour or the
God you worship...
That what's this show is about. The right to stand up and not be bullied.
So I learned that at home."
Being asked whether he has learned anything from the character Leonard
is sure: "I learned that there still are heroes. That there still are
situations where the call for heroic behaviour, that ethics and decency
and honesty still count. And the judicial system still can work. It did
in this case... This is a show about ethics work, about dignity works,
about truth works about values, about family... And I found it very
satisfying, very uplifting story."
Did he want to direct Never Forget?
"No, on the contrary. I really
did not want to direct it. I had great trust in this director, Joe Sargent, who directed this show
Never Forget, directed the first
Star Trek episode that we shot when it went into production on the
series in 1966. And I'll never forget the contribution that he made
to the Spock-character and to me because in one scene, the very first
day of shooting the ship, the Enterprise, was being threatened by
some alien thing. And everybody was scurrying around and Bill Shatner
as Kirk was giving orders and he was saying (Leonard talks faster) warp seven... rudder hard right three degrees...
... Aye, sir, rudder
hard right three degrees, what's he going to do now?, and everybody
is yelling, running and jumping and Spock is listening, and he had
one word to say and the word was fascinating. And I was saying
(excited voice) fascinating and Joe said: No, no, no don't be like
anybody else, be cool, be the scientist, forget about the threat, forget about
the danger. And I say (Spock like) fascinating. And
the character was born."
An example of Leonard's poetry
Rocket ships
Are exciting
But so are roses
On a birthday
Computers are exciting
But so is a sunset
And logic
Will never replace
Love
Sometimes I wonder
Where I belong
In the future
Or
In the past
I guess I'm just
An old-fashioned
Space-man
Scene Star Trek V around the campfire
"That is funny how you remark about how Spock of course was cool and so kind,
always in control; And yet Leonard Nimoy writes beautiful poetry, has done
albums of great poetic narration and..."
Leonard: "Again it is interesting I seem to go with what has to be done.
I didn't set out to say I'm gonna write poetry. I did set out to say
I'm gonna explore further an old hobby which was photography." He does not
write poetry in the moment because when he is on the case and a schedule
and has work to do, Leonard can't get reflective and write.
Interviewer: "You have a wonderful voice. I haven't heard the albums but that must have
been wonderful just to hear your voice..."
"I could have been a great singer. I could have been, I really could have been great,
I could have been Sinatra. I could have been great, but he was already there (starts laughing)... I thought I was going to be on the radio when I first started when I was a teenager.
I was doing a lot of radio-work in Boston. Amateur stuff. Amateur radio drama.
A director friend of mine that I was working with at that time said you won't be
much of an actor but you will be a great radio-announcer."
(both Leonard and host start laughing)
Being asked about his priorities: "My priorities... serenity, to be of service,
to maintain some self-respect, recapture when I loose it... stuff like that...
...There were times where I didn't know how to do it... ...Then you find yourself
saying: Wait a minute. What am I doing here? I think I am enjoying the Eiffel tower
and the food. The money is going to the bank account but I'm not really excited
about going to work today.' Then you know you are in the wrong place."
...
"I think is worth saying: that will move and touch people and enlighten their
lives in some way. I should be there. I want to be there. Sometimes there is
no money. Sometimes there is not much glamour and sometimes it is bussing and
trucking on the road city to city doing it. But you love doing it because you
are carrying a message that makes a lot of sense; that is moving people,
entertaining people, touching people."
BREAK
After talking about the origin of the Vulcan greeting, Leonard talks
about the Hollywood sequelizing, about how intimidating it is:
"Yes, to me it is. Because you're constantly being asked to repeat your
success or top it if possible... Well I'm a very satisfied person.
I think it has been a great ride. And, most important, outside of Star Trek...
sure I am very happy for the success of Star Trek but the most important
thing about it is that it has given me opportunities to do other interesting
work. This project, the Never Forget project, I could not have gotten of
the ground if it had not been for the cachet that Star Trek gives you.
People return your phone calls and they listen... Star Trek has opened
doors for me to do other kinds of business." |