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By
Rob Turbovsky
If
Leonard Nimoy's acting work had been limited to that deliriously crazy music
video for "The
Ballad of Bilbo Baggins,"
he'd probably still be celebrated by a lot of us. Alas, in a career that
spans seven decades, Nimoy has achieved a status far beyond accidental
cult-kitsch pop-stardom, even if he did direct
Three Men
and a Baby.
Playing the half-human/half-Vulcan Spock in the original
Star Trek
(and in J.J. Abrams's
Star Trek
reboot last summer), he used an iconic mix of logical stoicism and quiet,
pained loneliness to bring to vivid life the struggle of a character
grappling with his identity and his destiny. He was also in two of the best
Simpsons
episodes ever. I talked with the Boston-born Nimoy about
Star Trek,
ghosts, and Barack Obama when he called from Los Angeles last week.
Do you meet a lot of
Three Men
and a Baby
fans?
Once in a while. The strange thing about
Three Men and a Baby
was that the question was always, "What's the story about the ghost in the
movie?" [I.e., what looks like a window reflection of the Ted Danson
cardboard-cutout standee.] People want to know what that's about. There was
a lady who said her son died in that room — which was very good for box
office but was a total accident and had nothing to do with any ghost.
You mean, there was no ghost?
There was no ghost. Well — wait a minute — how do
rumors get started? Maybe there
was a
ghost!
The original
Star Trek
series aired during the height of the Vietnam War. Given the appeal of the
official Federation policy of "non-intervention," is it a coincidence that
Trek
has been successfully relaunched while we're in the middle of two wars?
Well, I think it's true that the original overarching
theme of Star Trek
included non-intervention policy, but we did some intervening. I think that
was a concept, but I don't think it was a reality.
In that
era, there was a whole issue about whether gunboat diplomacy was
appropriate, and whether force in other sovereign countries was appropriate.
And we were going through a lot of turmoil on that issue. I think
Star Trek
tried to be on the right side of the issue, tried to be on the humane side
of the issue, but there were times when I think our intervention was
questionable.
How close did Eddie Murphy get to being in
Star Trek
IV?
We tried to build a story that included him. He was a
big Star Trek
fan and very serious about it. I had a couple of meetings with him. The
first time I met him, I said, "We admire you, you admire us. We don't want
to hurt each other. If we can come up with a story that works, let's do
this."
We spent
some time working on a story where we, the crew, come to Earth, just as we
do in
Star Trek
IV
during the 20th century, and he was to portray a radio-talk-show guy who
dealt with subjects like the paranormal and alien visitors and began to
suspect that he had spotted us as aliens. That was to be the game — him
trying to figure out who we were and what we were doing. The story just
didn't hold up, finally, and we had to let him go.
Your video for "The Ballad of Bilbo Baggins" is a big YouTube hit. What is
it like to see it now?
I have a certain kind of pride connected to that
piece. It was done, I think, in the early '70s, 30 years ahead of the
Lord of the Rings
cycle. It's a fun piece for kids. It's amazing that it now has this big
life. It also points to another issue, which is that, fairly recently, some
kids were having a conversation with President Obama and someone asked him
advice about building a political future and he said, "Be careful what you
put on Facebook, because that stuff will show up." So, there it is.
There have been comparisons between Obama and Spock. If he's Spock, who is
Sarah Palin?
Oh God. I'm not going to go there. I've met Obama a
couple of times. The first time, my wife and I went to a very modest
luncheon, very early, when he was just starting to put himself out there as
a candidate. We were waiting for him outside on the back patio of this
lovely home, and he came through and saw me and gave me the Vulcan hand
gesture and said, "They told me you were here."
I'm aware
of the comparisons. He's got a tough, tough job. I don't think he'd hoped or
planned to be the president presiding over two wars and a severe economic
crisis. There will be people sniping at him for what Dick Cheney referred to
as "dithering." Well, for Christ's sake, how about giving it some thoughtful
process before you send thousands of kids to die? It's painful to watch the
political game, them trying to outdo each other, to get political points at
the expense of reality and intelligence.
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